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Finally won the battle against soggy window frames

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sgamer48
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You’re definitely not the only one hanging onto the old sashes. I’ve had this same debate with myself every winter, staring at my 1920s windows and wondering if it’s finally time to give in and go modern. I get where you’re coming from on the character thing—it’s not just about looks, either. There’s something about the way those old windows feel when you open them, or how the light comes through wavy glass, that just doesn’t translate to new stuff.

I’m with you on restoration being a bear, though. I spent a couple weekends wrestling with spring bronze strips and cursing under my breath. But once they were in? Night and day difference for drafts. Not perfect, but honestly better than I expected for century-old wood.

As for heating bills, I’ll admit—I was bracing for the worst when we moved in and kept hearing “replace your windows!” from everyone. But after some weatherstripping and storm windows (the old-school wood kind, not the aluminum ones), our bills aren’t much worse than my brother’s place with all-new vinyl. Sure, we still get a little condensation if it’s really cold out, but nothing between panes like you mentioned. Just a towel now and then.

I totally get why folks want to be done with leaks and rot—been there, mopped that up more times than I care to remember. But sometimes I think we underestimate what these old windows can do with a bit of love (and elbow grease). Plus, when I see those new replacements starting to fog up after just a few years... makes me wonder if “maintenance-free” is just a myth.

Anyway, sounds like you made the right call for your house—and peace of mind is worth a lot. Just wanted to say there are still a few of us out here patching up original windows and hoping they’ll last another hundred years... or at least until we’re too old to care.


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I get the draw of original windows—there’s definitely something about that old glass and the way the hardware feels. But honestly, after years of patching up sashes and dealing with rot, I’ve seen a lot of folks reach their limit. Restoration can be rewarding if you’ve got the time and patience, but it’s not always practical for everyone. Some frames are just too far gone, especially when moisture’s been an issue for decades.

There’s also the safety and efficiency side to consider. Modern windows aren’t perfect (and yeah, “maintenance-free” is a stretch), but they do offer better insulation and security right out of the box. I’ve replaced plenty where people saw a noticeable drop in energy bills and fewer headaches with stuck sashes or broken ropes.

Storm windows help, sure, but in some climates or with certain house layouts, they’re just not enough. At a certain point, you have to weigh nostalgia against comfort and ongoing maintenance. Not saying everyone should rip out their old windows, but sometimes starting fresh makes sense—especially if you’re already fighting rot every year.


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yogi88
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I get the love for original windows—my place has some old ones too, and there’s definitely a certain charm to the wavy glass and those chunky locks. But honestly, after my first winter here, nostalgia took a back seat to practicality. I tried patching up the rot and adding storm windows, but it felt like fighting a losing battle. Every time it rained, I’d find new soft spots or peeling paint, and the drafts were no joke.

Finally bit the bullet and replaced the worst offenders last spring. Not cheap, but I can’t overstate how much more comfortable the house feels now. No more towels stuffed on the sills or worrying about mold creeping in. I do miss the look of the old frames sometimes, but not enough to go back to scraping and repainting every year.

I get why people want to save what they can, but for me, swapping out the worst ones was just sanity-saving. Sometimes you’ve got to pick your battles—especially if you’re not looking to spend every weekend with a putty knife and wood hardener.


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Totally relate to this. There’s something about those old windows—mine had the ripples and the weird, clunky latches too. I used to love how they looked in the afternoon light, but honestly, after a few seasons of battling drafts and rot, I started to question if the “character” was worth it. I tried all the tricks: rope caulk, shrink film, even those magnetic storm window kits. The cold still found a way in, and I swear the wood just soaked up moisture no matter what I did.

Last year, I finally replaced the worst two in the living room. Not cheap at all, like you said, but it’s wild how much of a difference it made. The heat actually stays in now, and I don’t have to run the dehumidifier 24/7 to keep mold at bay. Plus, I didn’t realize how much time I was spending fussing with paint and putty until I got that time back.

I do miss the look sometimes—new windows just aren’t quite the same—but I figure there’s a balance. Kept a couple of the best old ones in rooms we don’t use much, just for the vibe. But for anything facing north or getting hammered by rain? No regrets swapping them out. There’s only so much you can do with 80-year-old wood before it turns into a full-time job.

One thing I’d say is if anyone’s on the fence, maybe pick your battles like you did—replace the worst ones first. That way you get some comfort without losing all the charm at once. And yeah, not having to stuff towels in the sills every winter is a pretty big win in my book.


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I hear you on the endless maintenance with old windows, but I still can’t quite bring myself to swap them out—at least not all of them. Have you ever looked into having the originals restored instead of replaced? I get that it’s not cheap either, but sometimes a good restoration can solve a lot of the draft and moisture issues without losing that wavy glass and chunky hardware. Maybe I’m being stubborn, but there’s something about the feel of the old wood and the way the panes catch the light that I haven’t seen in any replacement.

That said, I totally get why you’d want to replace the worst offenders, especially if you’re dealing with black mold or nonstop cold air. But I’ve found that a combo of weatherstripping and storm windows (the real, exterior kind, not just the shrink film) helped more than I expected—though yeah, it’s still more work than popping in a new window and calling it done.

Curious if anyone’s had luck with restoration companies, or am I just setting myself up for more hassle down the line? Sometimes I wonder if I’m clinging to nostalgia at my own expense...


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reader61
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I totally get the nostalgia thing—my house is from the 40s and I couldn’t bring myself to rip out all the original windows either. I tried a restoration company for two of the worst frames last fall. Here’s what worked for me: first, I had them strip the old paint and rot, then they filled in with epoxy and added new glazing. After that, I did some DIY weatherstripping (not as hard as I thought) and put up exterior storms. The difference was huge—no more puddles or ice on the sills, and the wavy glass stayed. It was pricier than just replacing, but honestly, I like knowing they’re still original. Maintenance is still a thing, but it’s less constant now. If you’re attached to yours, it might be worth a shot.


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- Can’t argue with keeping the originals if you’re attached—nothing else looks quite like that old wavy glass.
- I’ve done similar repairs, and yeah, epoxy is a lifesaver if you catch the rot early. But I’ll admit, I’m still not convinced it lasts as long as folks say. Had to touch up a few spots after two winters.
- Weatherstripping’s a game changer for drafts, but it took me a few tries to get a good seal (and not glue the window shut by accident).
- Storm windows help a ton, but they’re not cheap. I found some secondhand and retrofitted them—bit of a pain, but worth it for the insulation.
- Maintenance is definitely less constant, but still more than with new windows. I guess it comes down to how much hassle you’re willing to put up with for the character.
- For me, the nostalgia’s cool, but sometimes I wonder if I’ll cave and swap them out in a few years... depends how many more times I have to scrape and paint in January.


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space435
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I hear you on the nostalgia vs. hassle debate. I patched up my 1920s casements with epoxy last fall—looked good at first, but I’m already seeing some soft spots near the bottom rail. Maybe user error, maybe just old wood doing its thing. Storm windows made a big difference for drafts, though. Curious if anyone’s found a paint that actually holds up to winter scraping, or is it just wishful thinking?


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mocha_mitchell
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Epoxy can be a bit hit-or-miss with old casements, especially if there's hidden rot deeper in the wood. I've had similar issues—looked solid until the next freeze-thaw cycle, then soft spots popped up again. About paint: I've tried everything from marine enamel to those “flexible” exterior latexes, and honestly, nothing’s truly scrape-proof if you’re still dealing with ice buildup. The best luck I’ve had is with a good oil-based primer and two coats of Benjamin Moore’s Aura exterior—pricey but seems to last a couple winters before chipping. Still, prepping the wood thoroughly makes more difference than the paint itself, in my experience.


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That’s pretty much the story with my windows too—no matter how carefully I patch or paint, something sneaky always seems to show up after a rough winter. I’m with you on the prep work making more difference than the fancy paints. I tried skipping some sanding one year (just out of frustration and impatience, honestly), and the paint started bubbling by spring.

I haven’t tried Benjamin Moore’s Aura yet, but I keep hearing about it. The price is a little hard to swallow when you’ve got a bunch of frames to do, but maybe it’s worth it if it actually holds up for more than one season. Have you ever tried Zinsser’s oil-based primer? That stuff has been my go-to for tough spots, though I still get nervous about what’s lurking under the surface.

Epoxy is a wild card—I got all hopeful after filling some soft spots, but by the next cold snap, half of them felt spongy again. Sometimes I wonder if it’s just time to bite the bullet and replace a couple of these old casements instead of fighting them every year… but then I look at the price tags and talk myself out of it.

Anyway, nice to know I’m not alone in this ongoing battle. Makes me feel slightly less like I’m just bad at home maintenance!


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