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coder76
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Interesting to hear your experience with triple-pane windows at high elevation. I've been considering upgrading myself, but I'm still on the fence about whether the extra cost is really justified. My current double-pane windows aren't terrible, but I definitely notice drafts and cold spots during winter nights, especially when temps drop below freezing.

One thing I'm curious about—did you notice any significant difference in noise reduction with the triple-pane setup? I live near a somewhat busy road, and while insulation and UV protection are important, cutting down on outside noise would be a huge bonus for me. I've heard mixed things about triple-pane windows and soundproofing; some say it's noticeably quieter, others claim there's barely any difference compared to good-quality double-pane.

Also, did you have any issues with condensation or fogging between panes over time? My neighbor installed some supposedly high-end double-pane windows a few years back, and he's already complaining about moisture buildup inside the glass. Not sure if that's just bad luck or something common at higher elevations.

Anyway, appreciate your insights—it's helpful to hear real-world experiences rather than just marketing hype from window companies.

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snorkeler41
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I get the appeal of triple-pane, but honestly, if noise is your main concern, you might wanna check out laminated glass instead. We put in triple-pane windows last year—definitely warmer, fewer drafts—but noise-wise, the difference was subtle at best. A friend went with laminated double-pane, and it's noticeably quieter at his place near traffic. Also, condensation issues seem more about installation quality rather than elevation or pane count...just my two cents.

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toby_adams
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"Also, condensation issues seem more about installation quality rather than elevation or pane count..."

That's interesting—makes me wonder, has anyone noticed if certain frame materials (like vinyl vs. fiberglass) impact condensation or noise reduction more noticeably? I've heard mixed things about vinyl frames in colder climates, but haven't seen much discussion on how they handle noise or moisture specifically. Curious if frame choice could be as crucial as glass type...

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hannahdiyer
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"Curious if frame choice could be as crucial as glass type..."

You're definitely onto something here. I've seen vinyl frames perform surprisingly well even in harsh winters, but fiberglass does seem to edge out slightly when it comes to moisture handling and noise dampening—especially if installation is solid.

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musician13
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You're spot on regarding fiberglass frames—I've had similar experiences myself. When we replaced our windows a few years back, we initially leaned toward vinyl because of the cost savings. But after some research and talking to neighbors who'd gone through harsh winters, we opted for fiberglass. The difference in thermal expansion rates between fiberglass and vinyl was a big factor for us. Fiberglass expands and contracts at a rate closer to glass, which means fewer gaps and less stress on seals over time. That translates into better insulation and fewer drafts, especially noticeable when temperatures drop below freezing.

Also, something else worth considering is the structural integrity at higher altitudes. Fiberglass tends to hold up better against UV exposure and temperature swings, which are pretty common in mountainous areas. Vinyl can get brittle over time, especially if it's exposed to intense sunlight and cold cycles repeatedly.

Of course, proper installation is key—no matter what frame material you choose. Even the best windows won't perform well if they're not sealed correctly or if the insulation around them is lacking.

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ai532
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Interesting points on fiberglass, and I totally get the appeal, especially at higher elevations. But I gotta say, my folks installed high-quality vinyl frames in their mountain cabin about seven years ago, and they've held up surprisingly well—no brittleness or drafts yet. Maybe it's down to the brand or installation quality? Makes me wonder if there's more wiggle room here than people think... Has anyone else had vinyl windows that actually lasted in similar conditions?

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That's a fair observation. I've always been skeptical about vinyl windows in harsh climates, mostly due to the common complaints about brittleness and warping. But your experience suggests that quality and installation might play a bigger role than many assume. I'm currently researching window options for my own place, and your folks' success story gives me some hope that vinyl could be viable if done right. Maybe it's worth digging deeper into specific brands or installation methods before ruling vinyl out completely...

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smoon63
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"Maybe it's worth digging deeper into specific brands or installation methods before ruling vinyl out completely..."

Yeah, I think you're onto something there. I've seen vinyl windows hold up surprisingly well even in pretty extreme cold—like my cousin's place up in northern Minnesota. He went with a higher-end vinyl brand (can't recall the exact name, but it was one of the bigger ones) and made sure the installers used spray foam insulation around the frames instead of just fiberglass batting. Apparently, that makes a huge difference in preventing drafts and condensation issues.

On the flip side, my neighbor down the street went cheap on his vinyl windows, and within two winters they were warped enough that he had trouble opening and closing them. So yeah, quality definitely matters. I'd also suggest looking into triple-pane options if you're dealing with serious cold temps regularly. They cost more upfront, but from what I've read—and heard from friends who've gone that route—the comfort and energy savings can be worth it long-term.

Anyway, good luck with your research...windows are one of those things you really don't want to have to replace twice!

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"made sure the installers used spray foam insulation around the frames instead of just fiberglass batting"

Interesting point about spray foam...I've heard mixed opinions on it. Any idea if there's a downside, like moisture trapping or issues with expansion over time? Curious if anyone's experienced that firsthand.

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I've used spray foam around my windows and honestly, it's been solid for insulation. But one thing I noticed—if you ever need to replace or adjust the window later on, that stuff is a nightmare to remove...fiberglass batting might be easier if you're thinking long-term maintenance.

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