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Window choices when living way up high
We're building a cabin up in the mountains (around 9,000 ft elevation), and I've been going back and forth about windows. Some folks swear by triple-pane, others say double-pane with argon gas is enough. I'm worried about condensation and keeping the heat in during winter, but also don't wanna overspend if it's not necessary. Curious what everyone else went with or prefers... quick poll:
- Triple-pane windows
- Double-pane with argon gas
- Regular double-pane
- Something else (tell me below)
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I've installed windows in a lot of mountain cabins, and honestly, double-pane with argon gas usually hits the sweet spot. Triple-pane is nice, sure, but unless you're dealing with extreme cold (think Alaska-level winters), the extra cost isn't always justified. Condensation mostly comes down to ventilation and humidity control inside your cabin anyway. I've seen triple-panes fog up just as much as doubles if the indoor humidity isn't managed well.
One thing I'd suggest - spend a bit more on quality frames and good installation. Even the best window won't help if there's air leaking around it. Had a client last year who went all-in on triple-pane glass but skimped on installation... ended up with drafts and condensation issues anyway. Good luck with the build!
"Triple-pane is nice, sure, but unless you're dealing with extreme cold (think Alaska-level winters), the extra cost isn't always justified."
Yeah, agreed. When I built my place up in the mountains, I got talked into triple-pane windows by a very enthusiastic salesperson. Honestly, didn't notice much difference except in my wallet. More important was sealing around the frames properly and adding some decent blinds or curtains for colder nights. Spend your money on proper sealing and insulation first - windows alone won't cut it.
Honestly, didn't notice much difference except in my wallet. More important was sealing around the frames properly and adding some decent blinds or curtains for colder nights.
Interesting points, but I think triple-pane windows can be worth it even if you're not in Alaska-level cold. When we renovated our old farmhouse - definitely not Alaska, but winters here still bite - we switched from double-pane to triple-pane windows. At first, I was skeptical too, especially after seeing the price tag. But honestly, the difference in comfort was noticeable almost immediately. The rooms felt warmer, drafts were practically eliminated, and outside noise dropped significantly.
I agree sealing and insulation are crucial (no argument there), but I'd say don't underestimate the long-term comfort benefits of triple-pane glass. Maybe it depends on your home's layout or how exposed your location is to wind and weather...but for us, it turned out to be a worthwhile investment.
Interesting to hear your experience with triple-pane windows. I've been leaning toward double-pane with argon myself, mainly due to cost considerations, but your points about drafts and noise reduction are making me reconsider. Condensation is definitely a concern for me at high elevations, and I've read that triple-pane can significantly reduce that issue compared to standard double-pane. Still, the previous comment about proper sealing and insulation around frames makes sense too - no point in investing heavily in glass if the installation isn't airtight. Maybe the ideal solution is somewhere in between: invest in triple-pane for the most exposed or frequently used rooms, and stick with quality double-pane elsewhere. Has anyone tried mixing window types like that? Curious if it creates noticeable inconsistencies in comfort or performance...
I've actually done exactly that - triple-pane in the bedrooms and main living area, double-pane elsewhere. Honestly, haven't noticed any weird comfort differences room-to-room. Just make sure your installer seals everything properly...otherwise, you're just tossing money out the window (pun intended).
"Just make sure your installer seals everything properly...otherwise, you're just tossing money out the window (pun intended)."
Haha, couldn't agree more on that sealing point. Learned it the hard way myself - spent a fortune on fancy windows only to realize the drafts were sneaking around the edges anyway. Once we got that sorted, though, it was night and day. Good to hear your mixed-pane setup is working out; makes me feel better about my own window choices upstairs. Guess sometimes it's less about triple vs double and more about doing it right in the first place...
"Guess sometimes it's less about triple vs double and more about doing it right in the first place..."
Exactly - seen this happen more times than I can count. Had a client once who insisted on top-of-the-line triple panes, but the installer rushed the sealing job. First winter storm, they were calling me back because of drafts. After we redid the sealing properly, problem solved. Good installation beats fancy specs every time...glad your setup's working out now though, sounds like you're on the right track.
Couldn't agree more - seen plenty of fancy windows installed poorly, and basic ones done right that held up beautifully. Had a job once where the homeowner went with standard double panes but had us spend extra time sealing and insulating properly. Years later, still no complaints about drafts or leaks. Quality install is definitely key...those mountain winds don't mess around, haha. Glad you sorted it out!
Had a similar experience myself. Worked on a cabin up around 9,000 ft elevation, and the homeowner insisted on high-end triple-pane windows. They looked great on paper but honestly, the initial install was rushed and sloppy - ended up going back twice to fix leaks and drafts. Eventually redid the sealing properly, and only then did it hold up against those brutal winter gusts. Just goes to show, even top-tier windows won't save you from a careless installation...
Went through something similar when we built our mountain home around 8,500 feet. We opted for double-pane windows with a reputable brand, thinking they'd handle the weather fine - but underestimated how critical sealing and flashing details were. First winter storm rolled in and we had drafts all over the place... ended up having to redo the sealing entirely. Once properly sealed though, they've held up surprisingly well. Definitely learned my lesson: even decent windows can perform great if they're installed meticulously.
Interesting to hear your experience with double-pane windows. Had a similar scenario myself, but I went a slightly different route and it worked out surprisingly well.
When we moved up to our place at around 9,000 feet, I was pretty skeptical about double-pane windows, even with good sealing. I'd heard from neighbors that triple-pane might be worth the extra investment, especially given the harsh winters we get. My wife thought I was being overly cautious (or maybe just stubborn...), but after some back-and-forth, we decided to bite the bullet and go triple-pane.
Initially, I wasn't convinced it was worth the extra cost - felt like maybe I'd bought into marketing hype. But then our first winter hit, and I have to admit, the difference was noticeable right away. Even on nights when temperatures dropped well below zero and winds were howling outside, we barely felt any drafts or cold spots near the windows. We also noticed a significant reduction in condensation compared to our old place down in the valley.
Now, I'm not saying double-pane can't work - I know plenty of folks around here who've had great luck with them once properly sealed - but for us, triple-pane really took things up a notch in terms of comfort and energy savings. And honestly, after factoring in heating bills over several years, I'm convinced we've already made back most of that initial extra cost.
That said, totally agree with your point about installation details being crucial. I've seen folks spend big on high-end windows only to skimp on installation and end up regretting it later. No window - double or triple - is going to perform well if it's not sealed properly.
Guess it's one of those things where mileage may vary depending on your exact location and home construction...but thought I'd throw my experience into the mix for anyone still weighing their options.
"Even on nights when temperatures dropped well below zero and winds were howling outside, we barely felt any drafts or cold spots near the windows."
Had a similar experience here at around 8,500 ft - went double-pane but splurged on professional sealing. Honestly, no regrets... minimal drafts and heating bills dropped noticeably. Installation really is key.
Interesting points raised here, but I'm curious - did anyone consider triple-pane windows at those elevations? I've had clients swear by them, especially in harsher climates. Sure, they're pricier upfront, but the comfort factor and energy savings seem worth it long-term. Then again, proper sealing and installation might make double-pane sufficient... hmm. Wondering if the extra pane really makes that noticeable a difference or if it's more marketing hype than reality.
Triple-pane windows definitely have their merits, especially at higher elevations where temperature swings can be pretty extreme. I've seen noticeable improvements in thermal comfort and noise reduction with triple-pane installations, but honestly, the difference isn't always night-and-day compared to a well-installed, high-quality double-pane. Sometimes, investing in better sealing and insulation around the frames can yield similar comfort levels. Curious if anyone's looked into specific glazing coatings or gas fills - those can sometimes bridge the gap without the extra pane...
Totally agree that triple-pane isn't always the silver bullet people make it out to be. I've seen homes with double-pane windows using low-e coatings and argon gas fills that performed surprisingly well, even in harsh winters. The coatings especially seem underrated - they can really cut down on heat loss without adding much cost. Plus, like you mentioned, sealing around the frames is huge... I've felt drafts around expensive triple-pane setups just because of sloppy installation. Sometimes it's the little details that matter most.
"Sometimes it's the little details that matter most."
Couldn't agree more on this point. A few years back, we upgraded our windows to triple-pane because everyone was raving about them, especially for cold climates. But honestly, the biggest improvement we noticed didn't come from the glass itself - it was from the careful sealing and weatherstripping we did around the frames. Before that, even with brand-new windows, we'd still feel drafts sneaking through on windy nights.
Now I'm wondering: does anyone have experience comparing different frame materials at high altitudes? I've heard vinyl frames can warp a bit in extreme temperatures, but I'm not sure how much truth there is to that. Curious if aluminum or fiberglass might hold up better long-term...
We went with fiberglass frames about two years ago, and so far they've held up pretty well through some harsh winters and intense sun exposure at altitude. Vinyl was tempting because of cost, but our neighbors had issues with warping after just a few seasons. Aluminum seems sturdy, but I've heard mixed things about insulation performance. Has anyone noticed significant differences in heating bills after switching frame materials? Curious if the insulation factor really makes a noticeable difference...
"Curious if the insulation factor really makes a noticeable difference..."
It definitely does, especially if you're dealing with extreme temps and high altitude. Aluminum frames are sturdy, sure, but they're notorious thermal bridges - basically like having tiny heat highways running straight outta your house. I've had clients switch from aluminum to fiberglass or wood-clad frames and notice a solid drop in heating bills. Not exactly retire-early savings, but enough to make you smile when the bill arrives. Fiberglass was a good call - seems like you're already ahead of the curve there.
"basically like having tiny heat highways running straight outta your house."
Haha, love this analogy... spot-on. We swapped aluminum for fiberglass last winter and the difference was legit noticeable. No more chilly drafts creeping in - my toes approve. Worth every penny imo.