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IF YOU COULD UPGRADE YOUR WINDOWS TO A DIFFERENT GAS, WOULD YOU GO FANCY OR STICK WITH BASIC?

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musician50
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- Totally agree, gaps and leaky frames are the real energy thieves.
- I did try the “fancy” gas once—krypton, just for kicks. Honestly? Couldn’t tell a difference in my living room unless I squinted at the bill.
- If you’re chasing drafts all winter, that’s where your money goes.
- Might be worth it in super cold climates or if you’re after bragging rights... but for most of us, solid seals > premium gas every time.
- My take: fix the basics first, then get fancy if you’re bored (or bored with your wallet).


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data_barbara1916
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Tried argon in my last place, and honestly, the difference was pretty minimal. Like you said,

“solid seals > premium gas every time.”
I’ve seen way more improvement from just tightening up the frames and adding weatherstripping than from swapping gases. Unless you’re in a spot where it’s below zero for months, the fancy stuff just doesn’t move the needle much. Drafts and leaks eat up any gains you’d get from krypton or whatever else is out there.


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I swapped out some old double-panes for argon-filled units a couple years back, thinking it’d make a big difference. Honestly, tightening up the seals and fixing a couple drafty spots did way more for comfort and my heating bill. The gas is nice in theory, but if your frames aren’t solid, it’s kind of wasted. Maybe if I lived somewhere with brutal winters I’d notice more? For most climates, I’d rather spend extra on good weatherstripping and proper installation.


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- Totally agree, the gas inside the panes sounds impressive but doesn’t matter much if you’ve got gaps around the frames or lousy seals.
- Did the krypton thing once—honestly, couldn’t tell a difference compared to argon, and it cost more.
- For my 80s ranch, tightening up weatherstripping and adding caulk made way more of an impact than any fancy gas ever did.
- Unless you’re in northern Minnesota or something, I think solid installation and solid frames are where you actually see your money’s worth.
- Fancy gases feel like diminishing returns for most folks... unless you just like saying “my windows have krypton.”


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I’m with you all the way—my windows could be filled with unicorn breath for all I care, but if I can see daylight around the frame, what’s the point? Tried the whole “premium gas” thing once because it sounded cool... wallet definitely felt lighter, house didn’t feel any warmer. I swear, a cheap tube of caulk and some patience did more for my drafty living room than any fancy science experiment between the panes. Unless you’re living somewhere where your coffee freezes before you can drink it, I’d stick with basics and spend the extra cash on something fun.


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I’ve lost count of how many times folks have asked me if they should get the “fancy” gas-filled windows, or just stick with the basics and seal things up tight. Honestly, if you can see daylight around the frame, it doesn’t matter if you’ve got argon, krypton, or some mythical unicorn gas in there—it’s all leaking out anyway. You nailed it with the caulk. Sometimes it’s the simplest fixes that make the biggest difference, especially in older homes where nothing is quite square anymore.

That said, I’ve seen a few cases where upgrading to gas-filled windows actually helped, but that was usually in places where winter hits hard and you’re dealing with serious temperature swings. Even then, it’s only worth it if the rest of your house is already tight—insulation, weatherstripping, the whole nine yards. Otherwise, it’s like wearing a fancy raincoat with holes in it.

I’m curious, though—has anyone here ever noticed a real difference after swapping out their windows for gas-filled ones? Like, did your energy bills actually drop, or was it more about cutting down on drafts and noise? I’ve heard mixed reviews from clients, and I always wonder if it’s more about peace of mind than actual savings.

And for anyone thinking about upgrades, don’t sleep on the basics. A $5 tube of caulk and an afternoon can go a long way, especially if you’re not ready to shell out for new windows. Sometimes I think the window companies oversell the whole gas thing, but hey, maybe I’m just old school.


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Couldn’t agree more about the basics making the biggest impact, especially if you’re in an older place where nothing’s plumb or square. I’ve swapped out a few windows over the years—some with just double pane and tight caulking, others with the argon-filled “fancy” ones. Honestly? The biggest change in comfort and bills happened after I spent a weekend sealing up gaps and redoing weatherstripping around the frames, not when I went for the expensive glass.

I will say, in my brother’s house up north, he noticed less frost and a quieter living room after installing argon units, but his walls are packed with insulation and he’s got storm doors too. If you’re still feeling drafts under the baseboards or through outlets, gas-filled panes won’t fix that.

Here’s how I tackle it: start with a candle or incense stick and walk around windows, checking for airflow. If you see the smoke move, hit it with caulk or foam first. Upgrade the glass only after you’ve chased down every draft. Saves money and headaches—plus, you don’t get that sinking feeling when you realize your new windows aren’t magic.


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Honestly? The biggest change in comfort and bills happened after I spent a weekend sealing up gaps and redoing weatherstripping around the frames, not when I went for the expensive glass.

That tracks with what I see most—people expect the “fancy” windows to solve everything, but if you’ve got air sneaking in around the frame, you’re basically paying for a leaky thermos. I like your method with the incense stick; I usually grab a thermal camera for clients (not cheap, but you can rent them) and it’s wild how often the problem is hidden in trim or sills.

On the argon vs. basic glass, I’m not convinced it’s worth the jump unless your insulation is already dialed in. Krypton is even pricier and only makes sense in triple panes, which most folks don’t need unless they’re in serious cold. The one spot where I’ve seen argon make a real difference is next to busy streets—cuts noise more than drafts.

Bottom line, if money’s tight, spend it on sealing and maybe beefing up attic insulation before worrying about what gas is inside your windows.


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historian91
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I get the logic, but I’m not totally sold on skipping window upgrades if you’ve got old single panes, even if you seal everything up. I did all the weatherstripping and caulking, but swapping to double-pane argon actually made a noticeable difference in winter drafts—felt less “cold wall” effect. Maybe it’s the age of my place (built in the 70s), but sealing only got me so far. Isn’t there a point where better glass just matters more, even if it’s pricier?


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I totally get where you’re coming from. I grew up in a drafty old house (think 60s ranch), and we tried every trick—plastic film, heavy curtains, you name it. Sealing helped, but there was always that chilly vibe near the windows. When I finally swapped out the single panes for double-pane argon, it wasn’t just about drafts—my living room actually felt warmer, and the furnace didn’t kick on as much.

I’ve wondered if the “fancy” gas fills (like krypton) would be worth it, but honestly, argon already made a big enough difference for me. The price jump for anything fancier just didn’t seem worth it in my climate. Maybe if you’re in a super cold area or have big glass walls, it’d matter more? For most folks, I think there’s a sweet spot between cost and comfort.

Did you notice any noise reduction too? That was a nice bonus I wasn’t expecting…


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