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Getting precise measurements for weird-shaped windows (arches, triangles, etc.)

Measuring normal square windows? No sweat. But the ones in my attic have this weird arch at the top, and I wasn’t sure how to even start. I ended up using a flexible tape measure (like the kind for sewing) to trace the curve, then measured the widest and tallest points with a regular metal tape. For the arch, I sort of eyeballed the midpoint and measured from base to peak. For triangles, I did all three sides and the height just in case.

I drew a rough sketch with all my numbers and gave that to the blinds company, but I still felt like I was guessing a bit. Anyone got a more foolproof way to do this? Or maybe a trick for those windows with really wavy edges? I’d love to hear if someone has a hack that doesn’t involve fancy tools or math I forgot from high school.


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abrown50

For the arch, I sort of eyeballed the midpoint and measured from base to peak.

Eyeballing works in a pinch, but I’ve seen a lot of folks end up with blinds that just don’t fit right - especially on those oddball arches. What I usually tell people is to cut a big piece of cardboard that fits snug into the window, then trace the curve exactly. Pull it out, measure your max width and height on the cardboard, and send that as a template. It’s low-tech, but way more accurate than guessing curves. Wavy edges are trickier… sometimes it’s just easier to call the window folks for a custom fit if you want it perfect.


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food327

Pull it out, measure your max width and height on the cardboard, and send that as a template.

That cardboard tracing trick is a lifesaver, especially if you’ve got an arch that isn’t a perfect half-circle. I’ve done the “eyeball and hope” method myself, and it’s hit or miss. Like you said, “wavy edges are trickier…” - I tried to fit blinds on a gothic arch once and ended up with a gap big enough for a squirrel to squeeze through. Templates just take the guesswork out. Still, if you’re just after basic coverage and not too picky, eyeballing can get you close enough - depends on how precise you need it.


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politics906

Templates just take the guesswork out. Still, if you’re just after basic coverage and not too picky, eyeballing can get you close enough - depends on how precise you need it.

Totally get where you're coming from. I tried the “good enough” route on a weird triangle window in my attic and, yeah, it worked... sort of. The light still sneaks around the edges though. If you want it to look halfway decent, that cardboard trick is worth the extra 10 minutes. But for spots nobody sees much? Eyeballing isn’t the end of the world.


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wafflesp40
wafflesp40 Topic starter

That cardboard template trick really does save a headache, especially for those oddball shapes. I once tried to make a paper template for a window with a half-circle top - looked ridiculous, but at least the shade fit better than my first attempt. I totally relate about the light sneaking in; it’s wild how even a tiny gap feels like a spotlight at night. For super wavy edges, I’ve actually taped butcher paper over the window and traced right on it, then cut it out and used that as my guide. Not fancy, but it worked better than my math skills ever could.


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toby_adams

That’s a clever workaround with the butcher paper - never would’ve thought of that for wavy edges. I’m always torn between trying to measure every angle or just tracing the shape directly. Do you find the traced template holds up if you need to redo it later, or does it get stretched out? I’ve had cardboard warp on humid days and mess up my fit, so I’m always wondering if there’s a “perfect” material for templates, or if it’s just trial and error every time.


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apollopilot572

I’ve had cardboard warp on humid days and mess up my fit, so I’m always wondering if there’s a “perfect” material for templates, or if it’s just trial and error every time.

Cardboard’s definitely not my favorite for that exact reason - humidity turns it into a potato chip. I’ve had better luck with thin MDF or even those cheap plastic sheet protectors taped together. They don’t stretch or warp much, and you can reuse them. Nothing’s perfect, but at least they don’t melt in the rain...


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frodomartinez97

Nothing’s perfect, but at least they don’t melt in the rain...

I tried using those plastic sheet protectors once - worked better than cardboard for sure, but I found they slid around a bit while tracing. Maybe I just taped them wrong? MDF sounds solid, but isn’t it kind of a pain to cut for weird shapes? I keep wondering if there’s a cheap material that holds up but doesn’t take forever to work with.


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Funny enough, I’ve run into the same sliding issue with those plastic sheets - taping only helps so much, especially if you’re working overhead or on a wall. MDF’s great for stability but yeah, it’s a pain for tight curves unless you’ve got the right saws. Ever tried using foam board? It’s cheap, holds its shape, and you can cut it with a box cutter. Curious if anyone’s found something even sturdier that doesn’t cost a fortune or require a workshop full of tools...


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wafflesp40
wafflesp40 Topic starter

Ever tried using foam board? It’s cheap, holds its shape, and you can cut it with a box cutter. Curious if anyone’s found something even sturdier that doesn’t cost a fortune or require a workshop full of tools...

I’ve definitely gone down the foam board route for those weird window shapes - especially the arched ones in our 1940s place. It’s way easier to handle solo compared to MDF, and you’re right, just a box cutter does the trick. Only thing I’ve noticed is sometimes the thinner stuff warps if you lean on it too much while tracing, but doubling up seems to help.

For something sturdier, I once tried using that corrugated plastic (the stuff realtors use for yard signs). It’s surprisingly tough and still pretty easy to cut with a utility knife. Doesn’t flex as much as foam board and doesn’t crumble at the edges either. Downside is it’s a bit slippery when you’re marking out curves - chalk tends to wipe off unless you’re careful.

One trick I picked up from an old neighbor: he used thin hardboard (like 1/8" masonite). Not as cheap as foam but not crazy expensive either. You can score it with a sharp blade and snap it for straight cuts, though curves are still tricky unless you have patience. For tight arches, he’d rough out the shape with several little straight cuts and then sand down the curve. Takes more time but works if you want something reusable.

Honestly, I still end up using whatever’s left over in the garage half the time - cardboard from appliance boxes has saved me more than once. Not fancy but gets the job done when all you need is a quick template.

Funny how every window seems to need its own approach... never thought making templates would be such an art form.


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brianrain823

I get what you mean about foam board being easy, but I actually had a different experience with corrugated plastic - mine warped a bit in the summer heat, especially on south-facing windows. Maybe it was just the cheap stuff I grabbed? I’ve gone back to doubled-up cardboard for quick jobs, even though it’s not as fancy. Sometimes the low-tech route just feels more forgiving when you mess up a cut.


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Yeah, I’ve noticed the same with corrugated plastic - mine bowed out after just one summer on a west-facing window. Think it was the combo of cheap material and direct sun, honestly. Cardboard’s not exactly glamorous but it’s forgiving when you’re learning, and it’s easy to redo if you mess up a cut.

For weird-shaped windows, here’s what worked for me: I taped a big sheet of kraft paper over the window and traced the outline with a pencil. Then I cut out that shape and used it as a template for the cardboard. It’s not super precise, but it gets close enough that you don’t have big gaps. Sometimes I’ll trim a little extra once it’s in place.

One thing I’m still figuring out is how to get a really clean edge around arches - my cuts always look kind of jagged. Maybe there’s a trick with a sharper blade or something? Anyway, low-tech has its perks... especially when you’re just trying to block out the sun without spending much.


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robotics401

I get the appeal of cardboard for testing, but honestly, I’ve had better luck using foam board for weird shapes. It’s sturdier, cuts cleaner, and doesn’t warp as fast. Have you tried scoring your arches with a utility knife and then snapping off the excess? That usually keeps the edges smoother for me. The paper template idea works, but sometimes I just measure a bunch of points and connect the dots - takes longer, but feels more precise in the end.


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hunterillustrator

I get why foam board’s popular, but have you ever tried using thin plywood for templates? It’s a bit more work to cut, but it holds its shape way better than cardboard or foam, especially if you need to check the fit multiple times. I find the “connect-the-dots” method a little tedious, honestly - maybe I’m just impatient, but tracing with a flexible ruler saves me some headaches. Anyone else think foam board can crumble at the edges if you’re not careful?


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aaroncampbell351

I get what you’re saying about foam board flaking apart, especially if you’re handling it a bunch. It’s cheap and easy to cut, but I’ve had the edges get all mashed up or start crumbling after a few test fits. That said, I’m not totally sold on thin plywood either. Last time I tried using 1/8" ply for a window arch, it warped just from sitting in my garage for a couple days - humidity here is no joke. Plus, cutting tight curves with a jigsaw isn’t always as clean as I’d like. You end up sanding forever.

Cardboard is flimsy, sure, but for weird shapes where you need to tweak the fit over and over, it’s hard to beat how quickly you can adjust it. I usually double up cereal boxes or use something like a pizza box so it’s a bit sturdier. Once I’m happy with the shape, then I’ll transfer that to whatever material I’m actually using - plywood, MDF, whatever.

The connect-the-dots method drives me nuts too, but sometimes those flexible rulers just don’t want to hold the curve right and you end up with a wavy line anyway. I’ve had luck with that contour gauge tool (the one with all the sliding pins) for copying weird profiles - just press it against the trim or wall and trace that onto your template. Not perfect for big windows but handy for tricky corners.

Foam board has its place if you’re careful and don’t mind replacing your template once or twice. But yeah, nothing’s perfect - seems like every material has its own little headache attached.


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You nailed it - every material has its own way of making you want to pull your hair out. I’ve done the foam board shuffle more times than I care to admit. It’s like, you get the template just right, and then by the third test fit, it’s shedding little white crumbs everywhere and the corners look like a mouse chewed on them. But hey, it’s cheap, and sometimes that’s the deciding factor when you’re just trying to get something roughed in.

I hear you on the plywood too. I live in a spot where the humidity makes everything curl up like a potato chip if you leave it in the garage for more than a weekend. Tried to use 1/8" ply for a curved window sash once, and by the time I got around to installing it, it looked like I’d tried to make a boomerang instead. And don’t even get me started on sanding... I swear, I’ve spent more time sanding than actually building anything some weeks.

Cardboard is underrated, honestly. I’ve used everything from cereal boxes to Amazon packaging. My wife thinks I’m running a recycling center out of the basement. But you’re right, for dialing in a weird curve or angle, nothing beats being able to just snip off a sliver or tape on another chunk until it fits. Then you can go to town on the “real” material with a little more confidence.

Those contour gauges are neat for tight spots, but I always end up with pins getting stuck or the thing not quite matching up on bigger profiles. Still, it’s better than eyeballing it and hoping for the best. Sometimes I’ll just tape a bunch of pencils together and try to trace the curve that way - looks ridiculous but it gets the job done.

Honestly, half the battle is just accepting that there’s no perfect way to do it. You find what works for your sanity and your budget, and call it a win when you don’t have to redo the whole thing. If only windows would come in normal shapes... but where’s the fun in that?


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timkayaker2385

- That “mouse chewed on them” look with foam board is way too familiar.
- Plywood warping is wild - humidity here turns my scraps into modern art.
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Cardboard is underrated, honestly.
Totally agree, but sometimes it’s too flimsy for me and folds just when I think I’ve got the shape right.
- Tried a contour gauge once, but it jammed up on anything bigger than a baseboard. Maybe I’m using it wrong?
- Still searching for a method that doesn’t involve sweeping up bits for days...


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skywood306

That contour gauge thing - yeah, I’ve had it jam up too, especially on thicker trim. Sometimes I just trace the outline with stiff paper or even cereal box cardboard, then transfer that to my insulation board. Not perfect, but it saves a lot of cleanup. Don’t give up - these odd windows are tricky for everyone.


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running782

Sometimes I just trace the outline with stiff paper or even cereal box cardboard, then transfer that to my insulation board. Not perfect, but it saves a lot of cleanup.

Yeah, I’ve done the cardboard trick too - honestly, sometimes it ends up working better than those fancy gauges, especially when you’re dealing with old, uneven trim. One thing I’ve found helpful is using painter’s tape to hold the template in place while you trace, so it doesn’t shift around and mess up the outline. It’s not foolproof, but it definitely cuts down on the frustration. Those weird angles and arches never seem to match up with anything off the shelf... I guess that’s part of the fun (or headache) of older houses.


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Funny how the simplest methods end up being the most reliable sometimes. I’ve tried those contour gauges too, and honestly, they just don’t play nice with wavy old trim or those weird little bumps you get in plaster. Cardboard templates have saved me a ton of headaches, especially when I was fitting a new window insert into an arch that was anything but symmetrical.

Painter’s tape is a solid move - I’ve used masking tape in a pinch, but it can peel up fibers if you’re not careful. One thing I started doing is tracing the outline, then flipping the template over to double-check for symmetry before cutting anything expensive. Not foolproof, but it’s caught a few mistakes.

I’ve also heard of folks using kraft paper or even freezer paper since it’s a bit more flexible than cardboard and can hug the curves better. Never tried it myself, but might be worth a shot next time I’m wrestling with one of these “unique” windows...


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