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stormbaker
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Had the same issue a couple years back—foggy windows drove me crazy, especially in winter. Tried films too, thinking they'd help somehow, but nope...just ended up with slightly darker foggy windows, lol. Eventually realized the seals were shot, letting moisture creep in between the panes.

I did the whole temporary fix thing—resealing edges and even tried the tiny hole trick someone mentioned. It helped for maybe a month or two, but honestly wasn't worth the hassle. Ended up biting the bullet and replacing them with double-pane low-E windows filled with argon gas. Definitely wasn't cheap, but man, what a difference it made. No more fogging, rooms felt warmer in winter and cooler in summer, and my energy bills dropped noticeably.

If you're not ready to replace yet, running a dehumidifier does help a bit. I had one going before I replaced mine—it didn't solve everything, but at least kept things manageable until I could afford new windows.

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Honestly, replacing windows is great if you've got the cash, but it's not always the best bang for your buck. I had foggy windows too and went with professional defogging instead—basically, they drill tiny holes, clean out the moisture, and reseal it properly. Cost me way less than full replacements, and it's been holding up pretty well for almost two years now. Sure, it's not as fancy as argon-filled panes, but hey...my wallet's happier, and I can finally see my yard clearly again.

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andrewgamer
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Totally agree with the defogging route—did it myself about three years ago and it's still holding strong. One thing I'd add is that the success of defogging can really depend on how far gone your windows are. Mine were just starting to fog up, so catching it early probably helped. Plus, I gotta admit, watching the tech drill tiny holes into my window felt oddly satisfying...like dental work for my house. Cheaper and weirdly entertaining—can't beat that combo.

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barbara_blizzard
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"Mine were just starting to fog up, so catching it early probably helped."

That's a solid point. I've seen defogging work well in early stages, but once the seals are severely compromised, results can be hit or miss. Had a client whose windows were pretty far gone—defogging only bought him about six months before the fog returned. Ended up replacing them anyway. Timing definitely matters...and yeah, drilling those tiny holes is oddly satisfying to watch.

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jacksurfer
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Interesting you mention the drilling part...I remember the first time I tried defogging my own windows. I was skeptical at first, but figured it couldn't hurt since they were already pretty cloudy. Followed a step-by-step guide online—drilled those tiny holes in the corners, injected the cleaning solution, and sealed them back up. Honestly, it worked better than I expected, cleared things right up for about a year or so.

But here's what puzzles me: why do some windows respond so well to defogging while others barely improve at all? Is it just about catching it early enough, or does window quality play a bigger role than we realize? I've seen cheap builder-grade windows fog up again within months, while higher-quality ones seem to hold up longer after treatment. Makes me wonder if there's more going on behind the scenes with seal materials or manufacturing methods...

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fitness_rocky
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You're definitely onto something with the quality angle. Higher-end windows typically use better sealants—like silicone-based materials—that resist moisture penetration longer. Cheaper windows often rely on basic rubber or vinyl seals, which degrade faster, especially under harsh weather conditions. Also, the spacer between panes matters; metal spacers conduct temperature changes more readily, causing quicker seal failure. So yeah, catching it early helps, but window construction quality is usually the bigger factor in how long defogging lasts.

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tim_cyber
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Yeah, you're making a solid point about quality being key. But honestly, even with higher-end windows, I've seen fogging issues pop up sooner than you'd expect. When we moved into our place last year, the previous owners had just replaced the windows with supposedly "premium" ones. Guess what? Within six months, two of them were already fogging up. Maybe it was a bad installation job, or maybe we just got unlucky... but it does make me skeptical about how much extra money guarantees quality.

Still, your explanation about sealants and spacers makes sense. I hadn't really considered the spacer material before—good to know metal spacers aren't ideal. I'll definitely keep an eye out for silicone-based seals next time we're window shopping. Appreciate the insight!

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lunabaker756
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Yeah, premium windows aren't always a guarantee against fogging issues—I've seen this happen plenty of times. Even the best windows can fail prematurely if the installation isn't spot-on. A lot of installers rush through the sealing process or don't properly prep the openings, and that can cause even high-end windows to fog up way sooner than you'd expect.

Spacer material definitely matters, but honestly, proper installation technique is just as critical. I've replaced windows for clients who had top-of-the-line silicone seals and non-metal spacers, yet they still had condensation issues because the installer skipped steps or didn't ensure a tight fit.

Makes me wonder—did you notice any drafts or uneven gaps around your window frames when you first moved in? Sometimes subtle signs like that can hint at installation problems before fogging even starts...

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"Spacer material definitely matters, but honestly, proper installation technique is just as critical."

Totally agree with this. I've seen folks drop serious cash on top-tier windows, only to have them fog up within a couple years because the installer cut corners. One thing I've noticed is that even minor issues like improper flashing or not using the right expanding foam can cause moisture buildup behind the frames. It doesn't always show up as drafts either—sometimes it's just subtle dampness or discoloration around the edges.

Had a neighbor who went through this exact scenario. He got these expensive triple-pane windows thinking they'd solve his condensation problems, but the installers rushed the job and didn't seal things properly. Sure enough, within a year or two, fogging started creeping in. He ended up having to redo the whole installation (ouch).

So yeah, premium windows are great, but they're only as good as the workmanship behind them. Always worth double-checking the installer's reputation and maybe even watching the process closely if you can...

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